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Condition: NewBrand: Saddleback Leather Company
Material: Full Grain LeatherStyle: Messenger, Shoulder Bag
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SADDLEBACK LEATHER COMPANY
14 x 12.75 x 3.75 Dark Coffee Brown
Full Grain Leather Messenger Bag

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“Buy the best, cry once” - Pasquale

If you've ever bought an article of leather and it went from Ferrari to sorry in 4.3 seconds, you’re safe now. I honestly don't know how any of our pieces can be made better. On the website, I explain each of the points below, in depth. Also, on the website, you can see hundreds of the bag pictures the Saddleback family members have sent in from all over the world like the ones in this auction.

Messenger Bag Specifics
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I don’t know how many people have asked me for a leather bag like this. They’ve asked for something that looks great, will last forever, is lightweight, simple, made to carry no more than one’s basic needs and … that makes into a backpack too. Here you go. This bag is basic. It is made just like along the same lines of everything else we make. It is made to last forever.  

  • 100 year warranty
  • 100% Thick full grain boot leather
  • Dimensions: 14"H x 12.75"W x 3.75"D
  • Weighs approximately 5 lbs.
  • Thick double zero continuous filament
  • Polyester marine grade industrial thread
  • No breakable parts, e.g. zippers, snaps etc.
  • Converts quickly into a backpack
  • Hidden nylon reinforcing straps
  • 8 exterior D-rings
  • Removable and adjustable shoulder straps
  • 2 exterior side cell phone pockets
  • 1 full sized back newspaper pocket
  • 1 interior cell phone pocket
  • 1 interior pen pocket
  • Removable shoulder strap adjusts from 36" to 59"
  • Handle riveted to metal bar for stiff upper rigidity
  • Only two major seams
  • Tough Pigskin or Suede Lining
  • Pigskin is the second strongest hide in the world and suede is what cowboys and ranchers line their chaps with because it gets tougher with use (Suede is special order).


Customer Photos
Here are some cool photos sent in by customers using their
Saddleback Leather pieces all around the world

 

Detailed Explanations of the Construction

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Leather - Saddleback Leather bags are made of 4 - 5 ounce (2mm – 2.2mm)

 

Full Grain and fully chrome tanned boot leather.  We use the same tannery as Tony Lama and a number of other boot makers.  It’s simply the best. There are four grades of leather. Our pieces are made of 4 - 5 oz. Full Grain Leather oil tanned and made 100% from American hides. They usually spray paint those leathers so they look like Full Grain but will look shabby in no time. Ouru leather only looks better the more you use it since full grain leather ages so well.

Basically, there are 4 types of leather. Full Grain is the best leather money can buy. Top Grain is pretty good since it still has some of the grain (read explanation of "Grain" on website) on the top after most of the grain was sanded off to get rid of the blemishes. Genuine Leather comes from the bottom half of the hide and doesn't have any grain. Suede is an example of genuine leather. Bonded Leather is the PT Cruiser of the leather world. It's the dust and shavings of the leather glued and pressed together.

No, except in cases of what we call "Bad Cow Disease"...most of the time cows are docile, polite, and caring in their mating behaviors.

Tanning Process - Saddleback's great leather is a huge part of our success. You really need to read this part. See pictures on the website of what bad leather looks like and check out the fun, short and simple

explanation of how leather is tanned.

Watch out for leather that isn't tanned long enough; it looks nice on the shelf, but it'll crack and tear in no time. Basically, all of the natural oils and preservatives are extracted from the hide and the tannery replenishes them by tumbling the skin in a big drum for hours and hours. Some tanneries only tumble the leather long enough to coat the outer layer and therefore the inner part never gets the oils and preservatives it needs.

No Breakable Parts - A billion dollar submarine with a plastic hatch is soon just a really expensive fish tank. In the same way, a quality leather case with cheap components will soon end up living in the attic. We don't use zippers, latches, metal hinges, buttons, snaps or any other breakable parts. It's not an issue of IF those things break, but when. A luggage repairman once told me that the upper end baggage companies now use a plastic coil zipper instead of metal ones. He said that those are cheaper and easier to repair since you don't have to replace the entire zipper when it breaks, only a section. How thoughtful of them.

Hidden Nylon Reinforcing Straps - A German leather craftsman taught me a great trick. He sews a nylon strap into all of the parts of his horse equipment that get stress. Since nylon doesn't stretch, neither will the leather. We put tough nylon strips inside the handle and where it attaches to the bag; also inside the center strap where it buckles, and in the side pieces where the shoulder strap attaches. All areas that would normally stretch now have a hidden nylon strap permanently sewn in.

Heavy Duty Rivets - It's kind of like killing a fly with a shotgun, but we rivet every point that could possibly develop a weakness and give your grandchildren a headache. The corners and most places where leather joins together, get a well placed stout rivet. Remember, even rocks wear away.

Pigskin Lining - Tough Pigskin/  This bag is lined with solid whole pieces of pigskin. Pigskin has the highest tensile strength rating of all leathers (second only to kangaroo).

Absolutely not ! With some pigs we do use waterboarding and sensory deprivation techniques previous to slaughtering them, but the cows do not require any special handling.

Hardware - All the hardware is nickel plated metal normally used for dog collars and horse tack. The d-rings are there for tying on umbrellas, jackets etc. and to act as buffers between the ground and the bag. (Note: these d-rings are very strong and the leather holding them on is too, but not meant to attach the shoulder strap to.  There is a d-ring on either side specially engineered to sustain the weight of the shoulder straps).  On a hitchhiking/surfing trip through the jungles and along the beaches of far southern Mexico, I tied my hammock to one side of my bag, a thin serape blanket to the other and my flippers to the bottom.

Converts to Backpack - I've used my bag quite a bit as a backpack. Fully loaded on an especially long trip through Poland, Croatia etc. I used it comfortably everyday. The shoulder strap detaches from the sides and re-attaches to make it into a backpack. It also has two shoulder pads so as to be more comfortable.

I am 6'3" and 215 lbs. and it fits me just fine, but may not fit you. My brother-in-law, Tim, works for Cisco Systems and uses his daily as a backpack over just one shoulder. A while back, I was on a small island off the coast of Panama and was making my way to a fabled surf spot called Wizard Beach, only accessible by foot. The boat dropped me off and I started up the trail (my little brother was already there waiting for me with the board), but little did I know that the 25 minute hike was all mud, slicker than snot. In order to concentrate on not slipping, I turned my bag into a backpack and only fell once. It is a real convenient feature. As it turned out, the waves were way too big that day, so we didn't

Disconnect the shoulder strap completely. Attach the end of the shoulder strap that is closest to the buckle of the shoulder strap to a rear bottom d-ring. Run the shoulder strap through the d-ring beneath the handle along with one shoulder pad and then attach the other end of the shoulder strap to the opposing rear bottom d-ring.

False Bottom - I usually carry a copy of my passport and some extra cash in there. Chances are, someone is going to try to steal your bag, not the contents, but at least they won't get the satisfaction of spending your money. They'll never find it. Speaking of thieves, free helpful hint: Always carry a 6-pack of Coca Cola while driving in Latin America. Pop one for yourself and then offer one to the cop when he first approaches and he should let you go without asking for a bribe. The culture teaches that it's impolite to refuse a gift. If he doesn't accept it, you're toast. Negotiate your way down to $5 and go on your way.

Shoulder Straps - Comfortable and adjustable solid pieces of leather with suede backing and real tough swiveling clips on the ends from Spain. The clips are normally used for horse tack. They detach quickly to make into a backpack and also to attach the bag to things. I connect the bag strap through my guitar case handle and attach it to the bed of my truck so no one will snatch it out when I'm stopped at a light.

Multi-Purpose Belts - Some of our designs have removable side belts to securely close your bag or to strap something on. I strap my umbrella and tripod under mine. The straps are made of two long solid pieces of leather sewn back to back. These are very important if you're traveling in places like the subway in New York City or in Guatemala City where the thieves have really quick hands. They'll steal your fillings if you yawn too long. Did I mention that some conveniently double as belts for a size 36 waste? Most belts only have 5 - 6 holes, but ours come with up to 25 holes so can use them for whatever in an emergency. I've also used mine as both a dog collar and leash more than once. The illustration below shows you something to watch out for so you don't get cheated.

Industrial Thread - This is an extremely important part to know about. A big corporation can save tens of thousands a year by skimping on thread (think weakest link). There are three main types of thread. See if you can guess which one Saddleback uses.

  • Cotton (cost - $1.50/1000 meters) wears away and rots with moisture, sunlight and very low friction.
  • Nylon ($3/1000m) is a good thread and the industry standard for sewing leather products. A weakness it has is that it's usually made with thousands of very short nylon strands which is why it can rub apart. It also deteriorates with direct sunlight.
  • Polyester ($10/1000m) thread is used for making airbags, ship sails, hiking boots and other industrial all weather gear. It's about 3 times as expensive as nylon, and 4 times as strong. It's an industrial UV resistant marine grade thread made from several long high-tenacity strands of polyester. There's a reason it's so expensive. Not only do we use this thread, but we use the thickest version we can find.

They can cheat you by using cheap thread or by putting a spool of good thread on top of the machine and filling the bobbin below with thin thread. Let me explain.

You see, a stitch is made when the needle pushes the thread through the leather from above and hooks the thread of the bobbin. So, the stitches that you see are made with good thread and the stitches on the bottom or under the lining are made with cheap thin stuff (weakest link). Besides saving money on thread, they save time, which is money. With thin thread in the bobbin, a large company won't have 40 stitchers stopping an extra 5 times a day for 2 minutes to refill the small bobbin. They can fit at least 3 times as much thin thread in that tiny bobbin as they can thick. So, if you do the math, it's 40 people x 5 times x 2 minutes x 300 days a year x 10 years = 20,000 hours that they have to pay out extra. That's a lot of money. One 1000m spool can sew about 5 duffel bags/briefcases. If a big name company that's in all the stores is making 15,000 bags a year then that's 3000 spools of thread. You do the math. And that's just one bag in a company's line of dozens of products. Thread is a big expense.

If you want to figure out which thread your current bag is made with, try this. Light the end of the thread with a match. If it turns to ash, it's cotton. If it smells like burning hair, it's silk or wool. If it balls up, it's nylon. If it's hard to even melt, then it's the kind we use.

Stitching - Only those laser guided computerized machines that sew supple and thin leather make perfect lines. Because Saddleback Leather bags are each individually made by humans and the leather is so thick, the double stitching is sometimes a little bit uneven. Do you know how tough it is to sew through several pieces of thick leather at once? These bags aren't perfect and that's what makes them perfect.

Few Seams - I once got a little crocodile to come to the boat and test the strength of my bag (video of it on the website).  He clamped down and then thrashed and yanked the heck out of it. When he went for a bigger bite, we yanked it out. I was happy to get it back, but disappointed to find that he only scraped it up (I wanted some souvenir bite marks).

It would've been torn to pieces if it had been made with thinner leather or with lots of seams. We build each Saddleback piece with as few seams as possible. Two or three large pieces of leather sewn together is far stronger than several pieces sewn into a sort of leather quilt. They can cheat you by using a whole bunch of smaller pieces instead of a few big pieces. 

It's a sly way of lowering the cost of production and diminishing the quality of the product. A large company can save hundreds of  thousands of dollars per year that way.

Which is the better metal to make a door knob out of? Titanium or Bronze? Is nickel plated metal not strong enough to be a buckle? I see the hardware as bag jewelry. It accents the bag and draws attention to it instead of blending in. Imagine a woman wearing a brown dress with brown jewelry. She wouldn't look nearly as beautiful as if she had highly contrasting silver jewelry.

Thermal conductivity - Blue and I drove around Juarez, Mexico for three years in a truck without A/C (avg. summer temperature is 95°). In the morning, I'd pack my Nalgene bottle with ice and then water. If I kept it in my leather bag, the ice would last 4 to 5 hours as opposed to one hour if the bottle were on the seat. Leather is a great insulator for keeping in and out the heat or cold; and how much more so with Saddleback's abnormally thick leather. Below is a small scientific chart measuring the thermal conductivity of various materials. The lower the number, the better it is at insulating.

Thermal conductivity - k - (W/mK)

Air

0.025

Styrofoam

0.033

Fiberglass

0.04

Leather

0.14

Neoprene

0.15

Wood

0.4

Carbon Steel

54

Copper

401

Yes, I've put in extra holes in the shoulder strap for men just like you. You can also take the strap to a shoe repair person and have them take out the rivet that holds the clip on, cut the appropriate amount of leather off and rivet the clip on again. I make the strap long enough for anyone to wear and easy to tailored for a custom fit. They do the same with quality suits.


Testimonials

 

This is a just one of the hundreds of testimonials we have on the website.

"Hi Dave,
I've had a dark coffee brown messenger bag for not quite a year now, and I absolutely love it.  It's the perfect under-the-seat-in-front-of-you carry on item, among other great uses.  This past weekend I was flying back from Seattle when I had the good fortune to be selected for maximum extra security screening.  I stood by while the TSA agents unpacked the bag.  About 10 seconds in, the agent turns to me and says "This is a great bag!"  He continued to ooh and aah throughout the process, saying (these are real quotes) "this will outlast you!" "this is so well made, wow!"  He noted the Saddleback logo, so you may be hearing from him soon, who knows? He had a good eye, maybe they are human after all! Keep up the good work, Dan"

 

 

Ran across this link on YouTube this morning (4/18/09) made by another happy Saddleback messenger bag owner .... enjoy ...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxdBCQWorhs



Online Reviews

 

There’s no doubt you’re thinking, “What if these aren’t the greatest bags on Earth like Dave says?”  I encourage you to search “Saddleback Leather Review” online to see what others think and read a thousand or two of the comments other eBayers have left as feedback. A couple of straightforward reviews you’ll find, listing both pro’s and con’s, are:

www.kdkdgjhapojgido.com/review  

www.jasodjgsojghodsjh.com/review


The Most Inexpensive Bag You Can Buy

In college, I bought a pair of expensive shoes for my job as a waiter.  I couldn't afford them, but I bought them anyhow.  They were really light and comfortable and took me through two years of waiting tables and one year as a limo driver. Then, they still looked good for a month of Sundays.  Most of the other waiters bought a new pair of $45 heavy and uncomfortable shoes every 6 months because theirs wore out and looked ratty by then. This will be one of the inexpensive bags you'll ever have.  Moral of the Story:  Buy the best, cry once.

 

How to Convince your Honey
 

So you want it, but… now comes the hard part; to convince your honey.  Throw some of these phrases out and see what happens.


Her to Him 

  • I feel FRISKY every time I even think about this bag.
  • I would just feel so SEXY with this bag. 
  • I think this bag would really make me LOOK THINNER.
  • I don't think I'd ever want to go shopping for another bag after having one like this.


Him to Her

  • Even looking at this bag makes me want to just HOLD you.
  • I don't know why, but just the thought of this bag makes me want to TALK with you for hours on end.
  • Think of all of the extra TIME we'd spend TOGETHER on our long walks holding hands and showing off the bag.  
  • Maybe owning my dream bag would help me OPEN UP to you and SHARE the hopes and dreams I have for us.

Me to Both of You

If you don't buy this bag, then next year, when you're scouring the internet looking for your next soon-to-be garage sale bag, your mind will drift back to my words.   You'll slowly shake your head and say, "Man, was that guy right or what".  And then you'll press your lips together, squint and give a few small nods.  I tell you what, buy it now or kick yourself later.

I've made this bag for you to break in.  It'll take a few months or maybe a few years until it really starts to look cool.  You'll have to use it a lot.  In fact, the more you use it, the better it looks (and it already looks great).  It'll eventually soften up and form to the places on your body it touches regularly.  The edges will round some and it'll start looking even more chic and classic than it already does.  

 

Sales Tax

Texas buyers please note that those awful mean and evil bureaucrats in your state charge you 8.125% sales tax when you buy one of these bags just because Saddleback Leather Co. is based in Texas.  I really don't think it's fair.  Actually, I used to sell at times, the bidding would go up to $700.  You're getting quite a deal even with tax.


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Import duties, taxes and charges are NOT INCLUDED in the item price or shipping and handling charges. These fees come from your own government and are the buyer’s responsibility. Please check with your country's customs office to determine what these additional costs might be before bidding/purchase. Each country is different and there is no way we could know what that exact tax charge for you would be. These charges are normally collected by the delivering freight (shipping) company or when you pick up your purchase. Do not confuse them with additional shipping charges. We won’t mark items as a "gift". That’s illegal.


Warranty

We at Saddleback Leather Co. are so confident of what you're about to buy, that our products are fully guaranteed against defects in materials and workmanship for 100 years.  If you or one of your lucky descendants should have a problem, send it back and we'll repair, issue store credit, or replace it for free (be sure to put this warranty in your will).

 

Saddleback Leather products are made to last a lifetime or two, but they're not bear or bullet or semi truck proof.  The warranty covers normal wear and tear and does not cover misuse or abuse. 

 

By the way, the final picture below is of my dog, Blue, jumping into lake Michoacán down in Mexico.  Back in my single days, when it was just Blue and me and we were just getting Saddleback started, I traded of of Blue’s stud fee puppies for a hundred tacos.  I did that twice (full story with pictures on website) He was a great dog and I miss him a lot.

Now be honest, if you just read the whole description for the second time, you're a goner.  Just send me your address now, so I can get your box ready.

Warm Regards from San Antonio, Texas
Dave Munson
Presidente
Saddleback Leather Co.

HOURS:

Our EMAIL hours (Texas time) are:

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9:00 AM – 9:00 PM

Sunday

3:00 PM – 9:00 PM
 

CALL:

Our PHONE hours (Texas time) are:

Monday-Saturday

9:30 AM – 8:30 PM (210-858-5210)

 

Get to know Dave and the rest of us on Facebook at:

http://www.facebook.com/saddleback.  We’re on there all the time.
 

 

For Live Chat, SKYPE is available when Deborah's green light is on (saddlebackleather1969)

 

Blue flying.jpg 


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We at Saddleback Leather Co. are so confident of what you're about to buy, that our products are fully guaranteed against defects in materials and workmanship for 100 years.  If you or one of your lucky descendants should have a problem, send it back and we'll repair, issue store credit, or replace it for free (be sure to put this guarantee in your will).  Saddleback Leather products are made to last a lifetime or two, but they're not bear or bullet or semi truck proof.  The guarantee covers normal wear and tear and does not cover misuse or abuse.  There is a 30 day in new condition only refund and exchange policy.  A $25.00 restocking fee applies to all refunds except wallets and pouches.  A $25.00 restocking fee applies to all exchanges that are considered a downgrade.
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