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Geothermal Heat Pump 3 Ton 2Stage Super Efficient HVAC

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Geothermal Heat Pumps

DESCO - A Trusted Name Known in the HVAC Wholesale Distribution for over 36 Years

A Winning Combination

This ad is for the following Product(s):

Comfort Aire 3 Ton 2 Stage R-410 refrigerant Geothermal Vertical Heat Pump System

Comfort Aire Vertical Geothermal a/k/a Water Source Water Ground Source 3 Ton Heat Hump HTV036AC01JRK for Ground Loop Applications  Please see options below. 

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This system is eligible for 30% energy tax credits with no cap limits!! *

 

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Our two stage models are among the most efficient heating and cooling systems available today, with EERs as high as 29.1 and COPS as high as 4.8.

GeoMax2 two stage models are available in two series:
HTV=Vertical upflow design
HTD=Vertical downflow/counterflow design

The two-stage design allows the unit to run at 67% capacity most the time to maintain a consistent temperature and humidity level. When there's a demand for greater heating/cooling (such as during temperature extremes), the unit automatically and instantly changes to 100% capacity. This part load/full load capacity significantly lowers annual operating costs while increasing comfort.

In addition to the full load/part load operation, a variable speed blower motor adds to comfort and efficiency with a multitude of operational modes. The blower motor automatically adapts to all applications.

The GeoMax2 system uses environmentally friendly R-410A.

A hot water generator with built-in pump and CuNi coil are standard features that add value and efficiency.

Both HTV and HTD models are available in 2 to 6 ton capacities.


*NOTE: Not all models qualify for Energy Star based on installation; Click Here for more details

 

For Closed Loop in Ground Systems

Model
 

Nominal Full Cooling Capacity

Ground Loop BTUH @ 80.6/66.2°F ENT Air, 77°F ENT LIQ.
/EER

Nominal Partial Cooling Capacity Ground Loop
BTUH @
80.6/66.2°F ENT Air, 77°F ENT LIQ.
/EER

Nominal Full

Heating Capacity

Ground Loop BTUH @ 68/59°F ENT AIR, 50°F ENT LIQ.

Nominal Partial

Heating Capacity Ground Loop
 

BTUH @ 68/59°F ENT AIR, 50°F ENT LIQ.

Voltage/

Maximum Overcurrent Device (amps)
 

Dimensions
W x D x H
 

HTV036AC01JRK
 

38,150/
16.9 EER

29,950/
25.0 EER

29,950/

3.7 COP
 

22,050/

4.2 COP
 

208/240

45 AMPS
 

25-1/2 x 30-5/8 x 50-1/2
 

For Ground or Well Water Pump & Dump Systems

Model
 

Nominal Full Cooling Capacity

Ground Water BTUH @ 80.6/66.2°F ENT Air, 77°F ENT LIQ.
/EER

Nominal Partial Cooling Capacity Ground Water
BTUH @
80.6/66.2°F ENT Air, 77°F ENT LIQ.
/EER

Nominal Full

Heating Capacity

Ground Water BTUH @ 68/59°F ENT AIR, 50°F ENT LIQ.

Nominal Partial

Heating Capacity Ground Water

BTUH @ 68/59°F ENT AIR, 50°F ENT LIQ.

Voltage/

Maximum Overcurrent Device (amps)
 

Dimensions
W x D x H
 

HTV036AC01JRK
 

41,100/21.3 EER

30,100/
29.1 EER

36,550/

4.3 COP
 

24,650/

4.8 COP
 

208/240

45 AMPS
 

25-1/2 x 30-5/8 x 50-1/2

 

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ONLY $3,632 After Energy Tax Credit Plus 30% Credit for all ancillary items and installation costs with no cap limits!!

 

 

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FEATURES

Quiet Operation--Double isolation compressor mounting system and vibration isolation springs; insulated divider and separate compressor and air handler compartments

Extended Operating Range--20 degrees to 120 degrees F makes unit suitable for virtually all applications and climates
 

Two Stage Compressor--Copeland multi-stage scroll compressor provides comfort at higher efficiencies than single stage models

Microprocessor Controls--Includes performance monitoring system to signal a potential problem before a lockout occurs

Durable Cabinet--G90 galvanized steel has a tough epoxy finish; drain pan is stainless steel; air coils are coated

Easy Installation & Service--Service valves are included; three panels are easily removed, making it simple to access components

Feature Details

Five Easy, Lift-out Service Access Panels

E-Coated Air Coil

Integrated Filter Rack with Return Air

Duct Connection

Fully Insulated Blower Section, with Fully Insulated Compressor Section

Optional State-Of-The-Art GE Variable Speed Blower Motor

Exclusive Double Spring And Grommet Compressor Isolation For Ultra Quiet Operation

Copeland™ High Efficiency Scroll Compressor or High Efficiency Rotary Compressor (015 - 018)

Performance Sentinel: Automatic System Lets You Know If The System Is Not Running At Peak Performance

Warranty and Sizing

This Comfort Aire Geothermal Heat Pump comes with a factory conditional limited 5 year parts and ten year compressor warranty direct from DESCO Energy.  To receive the warranty and technical support there are specific warranty requirements. These requirements are for your benefit as they will assure you the installation is performing at maximum energy efficiency, optimal comfort and provide the greatest longevity. The two most important requirements: 1. Submit our online sizing form to be absolutely certain you are selecting the best type of system and the system is sized correctly using the latest industry standards. (Note that over 70% of all residential systems are oversized. This causes wasted energy, short life span and poor comfort. Oversizing is responsible for over 75% of warranty and comfort problems. Most online sellers and contractors will try to sell you the largest sized system you'll accept to increase their profits.)  2. The Warranty Validation Form - After the installation is completed a certified licensed technician (not the contractor) will complete their section and you the homeowner also have a section to complete and then return the form to us.  In completing and following the guidelines and requirements you can be rest assured your new HVAC system is operating at maximum performance and exceeds the manufacturers requirements for a well performed installation. The warranty form guidelines also show you the homeowner at which point your work should end and the installers work begins. A conscientious DIY homeowner should be able to perform 90% of any installation allowing you to save a minimum of 65% off of a contractor quoted price saving you literally thousands of $$$$.  For more information on warranties and requirements please click on the links found below in this ad. (Please note we do not require a licensed contractor to complete the installation. For more information please click on the link below in this ad on How to Locate an Installer. ) Due to our direct relationship with Goodman we offer you factory warranty and support direct.

To go to the official online sizing form, Click Here

 

Did you know DESCO Energy also provides a complete energy efficient precut duct system for all forced air applications? See information below and our other ads in our stores section here on eBay. We provide duct sizing and design and/or analysis of your duct system when you make a purchase of a system from us at no extra charge.

 

 

 

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 Installation of a geothermal heat pump is generally not a project to be tackled by a typical homeowner do it yourselfer. Why? A geothermal system requires the installation of loops. This requires a well digger as most loops are vertical with 200 foot loops per ton. Loop depth is determined by the thermal transmissivity of the soil where you live. In other words depending on how well the soil absorbs and rejects heat determines how much length is required for each loop. The type of tubing required requires certification to bond the tubing from the loops together in a manifold. In the vast majority of applications you will need a well driller and an installer certified in bonding the loop tubing.

Often we are asked questions such as what size hole do I need? How many holes are required and how deep do they have to be? What if I want to install horizontal loops, how long do they have to be? How many do I need? What size tubing do I need? These are all questions that can only be answered by a geothermal specialist or well drillers in your specific area. The answers to these questions vary throughout the United States. And they are not questions to which we are able to provide answers.

There are some answers we can provide. Can a geothermal system be installed by a homeowner do it yourselfer? Not to contradict what was said earlier, yes a geothermal system can be installed by a creative above average do it yourselfer in unique situations. But remember absolutely no system can be installed whether it is geothermal, standard heat pump etc. without the final assistance of a professional experienced licensed installer. That being understood also realize we will not provide any warranty or technical support for any product unless the system has been sized by DESCO Energy and the final start up and check out is completed via our warranty validation form by a licensed professional technician of your choice. For online sizing of your system requirements, Click Here.

Now here is how a geothermal system could be mostly installed by an exceptional do it yourselfer. Today most geothermal contractors use loops to install a geothermal system. But there is a more efficient system long forgotten or ignored by contractors. The traditional pump and dump geothermal heat pump system is still the most efficient method of using a geothermal heat pump. A pump and dump system utilizes two wells. A supply well and a discharge or dump well. By using well water directly through the heat pump you gain a large advantage in most areas of the country because the water temperature is more consistent and is generally at 50 to 55 degrees. Now if you are fortunate enough to live in an area such as the Easter Shore area in Maryland, Delaware or Virginia you are in a great place to do your own installation by digging your own well. In this particular area you are in a sandy soil where the water level is 6 to 30 feet below grade. A shallow well could be drilled to supply the water for the heat pump. The discharge well in this application would have to be more than one well to dissipate the water more evenly without causing breeching of the discharge well. In other words several wells taking about 2.5 gpm each so as not to have water trying to come to the top of the well. Running a shallow well pump with schedule 40 pvc and interconnecting the tubing from the supply well to the discharge wells and you have your external geothermal system. Note that on the supply well you will need a screen to prevent sand from entering the well system.  This screening is manufactured by a specialty well source supplier.

So how do I dig the wells? This is where we talk about the above average do it yourselfer. This is not something within the skill range of the average do it yourselfer. Using a water well drill auger connected to a gas powered post hole digger and you can easily dig a 20 or 30 foot well in sandy soil.

There are also portable hydro drill rigs that allow a homeowner to do their own well digging in other soils throughout the country and they cost anywhere from $2,200 to $3,500. With the average cost of drilling a thermal hole at $2,000 each and the average cost of a well drillers price tag at $6k to $9k portable hydro drill rigs could make a worthwhile investment. On the eastern shore where the soil is sandy a simple post hole digger with a well auger will work. Well drillers rigs are big and bulky and weigh 30 to 70 tons. This limits their accessibility to many applications especially in developments that are already tight for space. It is the cost of the well drilling that makes geothermal systems so expensive. Another reason pump and dump systems are not used like they once used to be is the varying water tables. Loop systems are not dependant on water tables and are a safer installation. For this reason we are pointing out the ability to utilize shallow wells in areas where the water tables are more constant and not too deep which provide an excellent opportunity to install a shallow well geothermal pump and dump system.

We are working diligently to provide a cost effective method of installing geothermal systems.

It is important to reduce the cost of the installation of a geothermal heat pump so there is better payback. For example an air to air heat pump in the Northeast can cost anywhere from $200 to $500 a month to operate in the winter. A natural gas furnace or boiler will cost the same or more. A geothermal heat pump will cost $80 to $200 a month to operate. Many electric utilities are now raising electric rates 40 to 75% as a result of increases in fossil fuel costs. Coal, oil and natural gas prices are rising at incredible rates. The vast majority of electric is produced from these fossil fuels. Some homeowners took a short sighted view of the recent natural gas price hikes and decided to switch from natural gas to heat pumps in the north in recent months only to now be faced with skyrocketing electric price hikes. Any price hikes in energy permeate to all other energy costs in time. If any energy source remains low for any period of time there will be a mass change to that energy source again creating more demand than there is supply and the final result is again skyrocketing increases. For example if electric rates in one area remain low for an extended period of time many homeowners and businesses will switch to heat pumps and electric heating. As demand grows the electric utility is forced to build more power plants resulting in higher electric costs.

Energy costs are increasing so much they are becoming in some instances the same as a homeowner's mortgage payments. Property taxes are also increasing at phenomenal rates either due to government needs or increasing home values. We seem to be voiceless at curtailing any of these cost increases so the most effective method is to decrease energy consumption. A geothermal heat pump is the most cost effective and efficient form of heating and cooling. But a contractor installed geothermal heat pump costs on average $5,000 to $7,000 a ton. So a three ton geothermal heat pump can cost $15k to $21 installed. If you can take out and reduce the cost of the wells required, you will then have a viable energy efficient heating and cooling system. A 3 ton geothermal heat pump using a so called do it yourself well dug system could be installed for $7,000 to $12,000 complete. But this is not a project for a regular do it yourselfer and it will still require the expertise of an experienced professional installer to assist with the design and final hook up and start up of the system.

How can this be accomplished? First determine the water level where you live and what flows you can reasonably expect at the depth required. For example on the three ton system you will need 10 gpm of water flow. Let's say you're lucky and already have a well on your property that either has excess capacity equal to 10 gpm or the well is o longer in use and has at least 10 gpm capacity. You must also determine if the flow is consistent and is not subject to change as what could occur in a normal drought. In other words has the water table at the present depth been able to produce the required flow for the past 10 years. If you already have a well with this capacity you're half way home on the well side.

If not then it would be best to talk to local well drillers and determine what depth is typically required in your area to achieve the flow you'll need. Note that if you live in a shallow water area where water levels are sufficient at shallow depths of 6 to 30 feet, you will rarely if ever find a well driller that is interested or who will propose digging a shallow well for your needs. Why? Well drillers are a conservative group as a whole and are accustomed to digging deep wells where water is potable. Water at shallow depths is not potable and therefore not in the mind spectrum of the typical well driller. You're interest is only in water flow on a consistent basis, not about the potability of the water.

You then have a choice in areas where permits are not required to dig wells. You can then decide to dig your own well using a portable rig or contract with a well driller. If you can devise your own well drilling rig or purchase a hydro well drilling rig then it will be possible to install a cost effective geothermal heat pump.

The dump well requires more careful consideration. Typically you may think that a dump well will simply take the amount of water you discharge in to it. But this is usually not the case. It may be necessary to dig several discharge wells due to the well possibly breeching. Breeching is when the discharge water comes back up the well shaft and saturating the soil. Not a good thing. We recommend keeping the discharge well at no more than 3 gpm. The discharge well should be 50 feet from the supply well. If you live in a heavy rocky area, don't attempt any of the methods above.

By reducing the cost of the well drilling you could make a geothermal installation more cost effective. Where there are laws governing well drilling or not you should discharge the water back to the same source from which it was removed. For example taking water from a large pond should also be discharged back to that pond or stream of water. Water for example should not be taken from a well and then discharged to another area such as a pond or vice versa.

There are other alternatives installations using horizontal loops. Some homeowners have rented backhoes or employed backhoe operators to install horizontal loops. They have used pvc tubing and using 200 foot runs per ton of capacity and installed horizontal loops below the frost levels. This isn't necessarily a procedure we recommend but it has been done. The recommended procedure is to use the correct plastic tubing recommended for geothermal installations which requires a fusion toll and a licensed experienced installer.

We had a homeowner several years ago who built his own geothermal system and installed the refrigeration copper tubing directly into the earth. The homeowner again was not typical in that he was a former engineer. But the application was successful and we salute that type of ingenuity and the ability to think outside the box. 

If your goal is to seriously reduce your energy consumption there are other alternatives to geothermal which are more cost effective and possibly better suited to a homeowner application such as corn burning boilers or even dual fuel systems. 

The Addison geothermal heat pumps have several options available. For a geothermal application a foamed cupper nickel heat exchanger needs to be used. The optional control package also needs to be included.  

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When considering doing your own system installation there are established guidelines and requirements to assist you in making the most successful installation. Success as measured in energy efficiency, reduced energy consumption and equipment longevity.

The first area of concern is the size and type of system to chose. This is where the most common mistake is made resulting in oversized equipment. Oversizing of systems is the main cause of poor comfort, excessive energy consumption, increased warranty claims and premature equipment failures. Forget about the old American adage and culture that believes "Bigger is better" and "If a little is good than a whole lot more should be great!"  The worst mistake is to put in a larger than required system.

To begin make certain the system you select is the right size.

How do I determine which size system would be the right size for me?

DESCO Energy provides a detailed online sizing form. Using Manual J, the industry accepted standard for determining the exact amount of heating and cooling BTUs we provide you with a final requirement. Based on that requirement the correct size system can be selected. For example your house may need 36,780 BTUs of cooling and 79,456 BTUs of heating. The cooling BTUs result will also show you how much latent cooling and sensible cooling will be required. Latent cooling is the amount of cooling for removing moisture and sensible cooling is the amount of cooling required to lower the temperature to a desired indoor temperature when the outside temperature is at the highest load. The highest outdoor load or often referred to as the summer design temperature is specific to each region of the country. Then the energy losses are included which are a result of the size of the house, thermal efficiency from walls, ceilings and floors insulation as well as window sizes, types and location, doors, ceiling heights, square footage and other energy gains. These factors are then calculated to determine the final cooling loads. Heating loads are determined by the winter outdoor design temperature as well as the house energy efficiency factors to arrive at a final heating load. As you can see this is an involved process of calculations and when performed correctly will arrive at an accurate heating and cooling load.

What if I simply replace the system with the size system I presently have?

Since over 70% of existing systems are oversized the chances of arriving at an oversized system would be more likely. If you have also made changes to the house which have increased the thermal efficiency such as newer more efficient windows or doors or increased insulation, your house is more efficient and requires less heating and cooling. Selecting the system size based only on the present equipment capacities is a big mistake and your chances of having a successful installation are greatly diminished. The system size would be based on erroneous and obsolete information.

I have received several quotes from contractors and they all told me the same size system. So wouldn't I be safe using their recommendations?

The most difficult thing is to convince a homeowner their selection or the size selection made by several contractors is too large. Nobody wants a system that is not going to provide sufficient heating or cooling. Unless the contractors took measurements of the house and all the windows, doors etc. and performed an accurate Manual J calculation, their recommendations could and most probably are not accurate. It's very possible and happens all the time that a group of contractors in the same region are all using the same basic inaccurate rule of thumb to determine the size system they select. And the larger the system they can sell the more money they make. So if you want the system to be accurately sized, use our online sizing form. We use Manual J engineered and calculated sizing based on your local climate and your home's energy efficiency to determine the correct size and there's no guesswork. Although a contractor may defend their selection based on no customer complaining from insufficient heating or cooling, the fact that comfort levels are not what they could be and in the wake of that contractors path may be many prematurely failed systems which he has blamed on manufactures defects. If you are still not convinced go to the Department of Energy's website, HVAC industry websites as well as many HVAC manufacturers websites. They all warn homeowners about the abundant problem of system oversizing caused by contractors not taking the time to perform Manual J calculations. 

Why should I trust your calculations over a local contractors recommendations? You're located in another region of the country and you've never even seen my house. The contractors have been here and saw what my house looked like. Certainly they have a more accurate idea of what size system I need than DESCO Energy, don't they?

The results of our online sizing are guaranteed to be accurate. When you purchase the recommended size system we provide after completing our online sizing form, we guarantee the system will perform to provide the cooling and heating requirements of the design outside temperatures. No we don't select equipment sizing based on a possible nuclear winter or that one in a hundred year period of extreme heating or cooling. If we did the equipment would be grossly oversized the other 99 years. One of our technical support team members provides more sizing of systems in one month than the average contractor performs in their entire careers. In one year we provide thousands of systems both locally and online. With that volume we can't afford to be wrong. In 34 years of business we have never had one compliant filed against us through the Better Business Bureau or any other source. To be honest we have had four systems in our entire history of 34 years that were sized incorrectly. We replaced those systems at no cost to those customers. To tell you we never make mistakes would not be the truth or believable. We feel we're good but we're not perfect. However in the past 15 years we have not had one system that was sized incorrectly either by over or under sizing. This is a record we work hard at to maintain. Accuracy is the most important part of determining the size system you will require.

How do I go to your online sizing form?

Click Here and you will be directed to a new window with our online sizing form. After you submit the online sizing form information you will receive an email verifying the information was received and processed. You will also be requested to call our Technical Support Team for a review of the results. The review process allows an opportunity to review the results for clarification. We respect your privacy and we do not make phone calls as a result of submitting the sizing form. You decide when to call us at your convenience. We will not intrude your privacy!

How much of the HVAC installation can I perform myself?

In most instances a skilled do it yourselfer can perform about 95% of the installation. No homeowner should attempt to do the final start up and check out of the system. This phase of the installation needs to be performed by a licensed installer. A homeowner can install ducting, place equipment in their respective locations, perform electrical wiring runs for high and low voltage lines where permitted by law, run refrigerant lines, install humidifiers, air filters, mount boilers, pumps, install floor heating or baseboard heating. soft solder water lines, run Pex tubing, installing condensate lines, etc. What should be performed by a qualified experienced installer is final wiring hook ups for power wiring and low voltage controls such as thermostats, air handlers, furnaces boilers etc., refrigerant line brazing, evacuation and leak checking of refrigerant lines, adjusting and checking of refrigerant charge, adding refrigerant, leak checking gas lines, final connection of gas lines, inspection and final assembly of venting and intake for furnaces and any and all other items that may be required by local codes. DESCO Energy will never sell any system or equipment to any homeowner who has no intention of employing the use of a qualified experienced licensed technician to perform the final hook up and start up. If this is your ultimate goal you should note that we do not provide any warranty or technical support for any system that has not been installed as per our required warranty validation form. We realize no other seller even mentions this issue but it is in your best interest to follow the guidelines and requirements we have established. This assures you of a system that will provide many years of trouble free service and maximum comfort and energy savings. There is a serious extremely high degree of danger if equipment is not installed correctly. Such dangers as carbon monoxide poisoning, suffocation, fire, electrical shock, serious water damage, pipes freezing and busting, personal injury in all forms are risks you impose upon yourself and your family or other occupants needlessly and foolishly in order to save a few dollars. It is so foolish not to follow our recommended guidelines in the name of saving a little more money. Realize you have already saved thousand of dollars by doing most of the installation yourself. But to do a complete installation without using a technician voids the warranty, places your loved ones at high risk without their consent and in situations that do cause serious property and bodily harm, the insurance company many times will deny any claims because you were breaking the law. Yes realize it is against federal, state and local laws to install refrigerant lines and in most areas to hook up gas furnaces as a homeowner. When an insurance company has an opportunity to deny a claim legitimately they will do so. There is absolutely no homeowner who is sufficiently experienced in doing their own installation without the assistance of a qualified experienced technician to perform the final start up and check out. If you were you'd most likely be in this business. Competitors don't mention the risks or potential problems that can arise nor do they provide guidelines or requirements. Is it because they don't realize the risks involved or because they don't care? You be the judge.

 If you would like more details email us to request the warranty validation form.

Do you provide a list of contractors in my area to do the final start up and installation?

First we recommend looking for a qualified installer. The installer is the technician working for the contractor. They are not required to be a licensed contractor and we strongly recommend looking for a technician rather than a contractor. Contractors have their own brands of equipment they want to sell you and are generally not interested in installing equipment purchased elsewhere. The technicians working for contractors are almost always eager to do side jobs and you save even more. It is a qualified technician of your choice, not ours. We refrain form recommending installers due to past problems of inconsistencies and performance. As well we have absolutely no control of the contractors or installers who sign up for the preferred installer list. We do not want to give the impression of endorsing any installer to which a customer may mistakably think came with our blessing and then turns out to be everybody's worst nightmare. The best way to find a qualified installer is to network through friends and family, ask for referrals at local supply houses or simply stop a service technician next time you see one and talk to them. By all means interview the installer carefully about the methods and procedures they use, their time frame and make certain they come insured so you are protected.  Most importantly get it in writing. For more information on how to locate a qualified installer see our website. EBay rules do not permit us to provide links to our website form any ad but doing a Google search for DESCO Energy and we'll be right there.

How do I know what parts of an installation I can perform and the installer needs to perform?

First in all areas of the country it is illegal for anyone to handle refrigerants that does not possess a license as issued by the Environmental Protection Agency. Secondly you do not have the tools and equipment to provide proper evacuation and to measure the correct refrigerant charge. Most importantly refrigerant lines are required to be brazed with a nitrogen purge, an operation that requires experienced skill levels and equipment. The typical homeowner regardless of skills is not prepared to have the correct tools or experience to perform these tasks successfully. Some misguided homeowners may attempt to soft solder refrigerant lines and use other unacceptable methods in an attempt to hook up their own system complete without the use of a qualified technician. Penny wise and pound foolish, they only cheat themselves out of longevity, efficient operation and warranty protection. DESCO Energy provides a warranty validation form that is required to be filled out by a qualified licensed technician of your choice. The form must be returned to us within 60 days of purchase of the system for warranty protection.

I also need a duct system design and might possibly need a duct system. Online sellers only provide equipment. What do I do to get a complete system?

DESCO Energy provides free duct sizing with a system purchase. We also will provide duct review of any existing system to verify if the present system is adequate for the size equipment required. And we also provide the most energy efficient fiberglass ducting system precut to your requirements. Check our other ads on eBay. DESCO Energy is the only online source providing the complete system including ducting. You can order your complete heating and air conditioning system designed for easy installation like an erector set from A to Z including all other accessory components. For more information about duct systems click here

How do I know which system is best for me? Natural gas, fuel oil, propane and now electric costs are skyrocketing. Which system is going to be the most cost effective and what energy is the best deal?

Natural gas prices will continue to fluctuate the same as oil prices have for years because every day we are importing more and more of our natural gas as our demand outstrips our supply. As with fuel oil you can expect a lowering of prices when you least need it and higher prices over the winter. Unlike fuel oil, natural gas can't be stored so as the prices fluctuate another factor will be certain. As demand increases so will costs. Some natural gas customers bombarded by natural gas increases made a mistake by switching to a heat pump system to only now see electric costs increase 50-78% in various regions across the country. Baltimore Gas and Electric recently raised prices 74% and further increases will be likely. Other providers in the mid Atlantic region are to follow suit as these providers generate power form fuel oil and natural gas. What needs to be understood that as fuel prices increase electric power derived from hose same fuels and even coal will also be increasing. As fuel users switch from one fuel to another the increased demand will inevitably cause price increases no matter what direction you turn.

Here are some basic guidelines. The most cost effective heating and cooling system is geothermal but the installation costs are enormous making this a poor payback - generally 15 to over 20 years. In most instances a geothermal system doesn't leave much room for the do it yourselfer. Only if you can get extremely creative it might be possible to cut those costs in less than half.

For comfort and cost effectiveness radiant floor heating or baseboard with proper zoning make hot water heating an excellent choice. But here again high installation costs make this system a 6 to 12 year payback depending on how much of the installation you perform. 

If you have natural gas consider a dual fuel system. A dual fuel system offers an excellent opportunity to reduce heating fuel costs another 20%. Dual fuel also adds protection against one energy source over another and provides choices. A dual fuel system is one that combines a fossil fuel furnace with a heat pump. The heat pump is most efficient between outdoor temperatures of 35 to 70 degrees. As the outdoor temperature falls the more efficient fossil fuel furnace operates. Most dual fuel systems provide an ultra efficient gas furnace with a heat pump. There are also fuel oil and propane furnaces in conjunction with a heat pump. Dual fuel systems cost slightly more than the fossil fuel furnace with air conditioning. However the cost difference provides a quick payback of less than one heating season by the lowered heating costs.

How much can I reasonably expect to save by making a heating and air conditioning system a Do It Yourself project?

The skilled homeowner who anticipates he can do the maximum amount of the installation as permitted by codes and laws and can perform 95% of the installation can expect to save 70% off the price of a contractor quoted installation. Further the average homeowner tells us they saved at least 50% off their energy costs. Taking a typical installation or replacement that is contractor quoted at $7,000 and with annual energy consumption at $3,400, the skilled do it yourselfer will save $4,900 for the installation and $1,700 in energy costs. That is a grand total savings of $6,600. In this equation the homeowner paid DESCO Energy $2,100 for the equipment and saved $6,600 for a payback of period of less than 4 months. Looking at this same investment strictly from a payback versus energy costs saved the homeowner will see a 15 month payback. So no matter how you do the math, there is no better payback you will find on any investment such as you're heating and cooling system.

Looking at the homeowner who isn't proficient at do it yourself projects and elects to only do the bare minimum which in most equations this amounts to 30% saved off of a contractor quoted price or as in the above example 30% of $7,000 or $2,100. This no so proficient homeowner will still enjoy the same energy savings as above or  $1,700. This homeowner will see a total savings including contractor savings and energy of $3,800. He paid DESCO Energy $2,100 and the installer $2,800 for a total investment of $4,900. His savings will be $2,100 for the installation and $1,700 in energy costs for a total first year savings of $3,900 from an investment of $4,900 or a payback period of 15 months or 1 year and 3 months. From an energy savings comparison only of $1,700 from an investment of $4,900 his payback will be 35 months or slightly less than 3 years.

In review of our homeowner who only uses contractors and has no involvement the payback based on energy savings would be $7,000 against $1,700 annual energy costs for a payback period of 4 years and 1 month.

The information provided above is a result of surveys we performed from customers and their results. Naturally the more you do the more you save and the savings are significant. Most homeowners would like to upgrade their heating and cooling systems but with the average investment showing only 4 to 7 years payback, it isn't cost effective. But when a homeowner sees a payback of two years or less then that investment becomes worthwhile. And as energy costs continue to skyrocket, the investment becomes even more significant. Remember the best investment you can make isn't on Wall Street, it's on your street in your heating and cooling system. Where else could you make an investment that guarantees a return of two years or less and continues to pay dividends of 25% thereafter? As energy costs increase your investment continues to provide even greater returns. If any homeowner was given that type of investment opportunity they would be lined up around the nation. For over 80% of homeowners this same investment opportunity exists right in your house today.

Speaking of investments what are these tax credits all about?

The new energy tax credit bill provides for tax credits or rebates to homeowners primary residences as an incentive to improve the efficiency of your home. In 2007 Energy Tax Credits ended for existing homes but continues through 2008 for new home construction only. Included is insulation, windows and of course heating and cooling equipment. The other improvements such as windows and insulation are based on a percentage of the cost. Heating and cooling systems are based on a flat amount. Furnaces with 95% or higher efficiencies receive a $150 tax credit. Variable speed fan blowers receive a $50 tax credit. Split cooling systems and heat pumps of 15 Seer or Heat Pumps with 9 HSPF and a 12.5 EER are eligible for a $300 tax credit. Packaged heat pumps and cooling systems of 14 Seer and 12 EER are also eligible for a $300 tax credit. A tax credit is more valuable than a deduction in that the credit is matched dollar for dollar while a deduction is only a percentage of the given amount. To be legible for the tax credits the system and matched components must all be ARI certified and rated. There are numerous misleading ads out there where an advertiser exaggerated the efficiency ratings to promote a sale and there is no official rating of the system so there won't be a tax credit either. These sellers who proclaim honesty know what are the worst offenders offering 93% furnaces and plagiarizing manufacturers specifications to 96% or 15 Seer systems that aren't even rated or have no ARI match up. The only thing we can figure out is these sellers probably don't plan on being around next year when their customers go to file their income taxes and find out to their dismay the system they purchased isn't eligible for any tax credit.

For more details about the tax credits and the new energy bill Click Here

I'm building a new house. Where should I begin?

New home construction is an excellent opportunity to provide the most energy efficient system. When new homeowners purchase a new home from a builder they are getting the cheapest builder grade low end model installed at the lowest possible price.

\The average homeowner will focus on the color the kitchen cabinets and spend their entire focus on selecting the proper cabinets, etc. Then when it comes to the item that will consume the largest part of their monthly budget, their heating and cooling system, the only question they may ask is the name of  the manufacturer. With little or no regard for the efficiency or features of the system they think that because it is a name brand they recognize that it is dependable and efficient. Nothing could be further form the truth. If a homeowner realized how little the builder pays the installer and that the system selected was the lowest and cheapest model they could purchase and still keep it a name brand, homeowners wouldn't have to wait until their first heating season to realize they got exactly what they paid for.

First go to our online sizing form and submit the requested information. Then if you have a copy of the plans to email us or go to this link and there you can get a free download of a great software to layout your heating and cooling system. Click Here to go to Home Plan Pro.

After submitting the online sizing form as well as the layout of your house we can provide a layout of the duct system and equipment selection and location.

What about the warranties? How can you provide warranty protection when we are located in another state from DESCO Energy? Goodman states there is no warranty on products ordered over the internet. How then do we have warranty protection?

First it is extremely important to understand how warranties are handled on do it yourself installations versus contractor installations. When you have a contractor perform your installation it is the responsibility of that contractor to provide the warranty service and support after the sale. The manufacturer provides warranty support to the contractor who in turn provides warranty support to the homeowner. The manufacturer does not provide warranty support directly to the homeowner. The only time a manufacturer may get involved is when the contractor fails to properly service the equipment via the terms of the warranty because the contractor is no longer in business, is incompetent, can't fix the problem or fails to respond. In these circumstances the manufacturer may elect to contact their distributor in the area to locate another dealer or have their field representative provide the warranty support. Unless the homeowner purchased a labor contract from the manufacturer the only obligation the manufacturer will have is to provide warranty parts. 

When you purchase a system online you are acting as your own contractor. To purchase at wholesale you do not have the same warranty support you may have if you had a contractor perform the installation. You as the contractor must realize there is no longer free labor support. You will receive the equivalent warranty from DESCO Energy that a contractor receives from DESCO Energy. We will provide warranty coverage for parts as shown in the manufacturers warranty. However because we provide certain coverage that extends beyond the manufacturers standard warranties it is not correct for us to say the warranty protection we provide is the standard manufacturers warranty. For example on the Goodman 13 Seer heat pumps and air conditioning systems the standard factory warranty is only 5 years parts including the compressor. But DESCO Energy provides an extended Goodman warranty that includes a 99 year compressor warranty and 10 years on all parts.

On all equipment the warranty protection and coverage is the responsibility of DESCO Energy. Goodman as well as all other HVAC manufacturers do not provide any warranty coverage direct to any homeowner. DESCO Energy will always be your source for warranty coverage for the entire life of the warranty. Any parts needed to be replaced under the terms of the warranty must be returned to DESCO Energy. Replacements parts are sent immediately for any request and must be prepaid including shipping. Shipping of new replacement parts and their return to us shall be the responsibility of the homeowner or end user. In warranties where the entire unit shall be replaced as a result of any heat exchanger failures, the cost to return the item, labor to replace and the cost to ship the new replacement furnace shall be the responsibility of the homeowner or purchaser. Lifetime warranties are only applicable to first time purchaser and are non transferable. Lifetime warranties revert to 20 year coverage for secondary transfer to other parties.

In the event of warranty parts we require the system must have been installed correctly as evidenced by the return receipt of the warranty validation form provided.

Because we provide coverage beyond the factory warranties and because labor allowances are granted in specific situations the warranty coverage is more than the factory warranty and is therefore the sole responsibility of this seller, DESCO Energy. At no time shall the warranty coverage offered for all products we provide be less than the equivalent Goodman factory warranty.

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